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    文章一覽:Will U.S. President Bush get re-elected next week? (新回覆在最前面,最多列出 6 個)  [列出所有回覆]
    緣生 發表於: 2004/11/04 11:39pm
    在卦之中,時、位是極之重要的因素;
    相對而言,卦師亦然。

    卦師在解卦之時,其時、其位,皆會影響判斷。

    此外,正如筆者在另外的貼文有提及,
    當預測一些客觀事件時,
    除了解卦的人要有相當技巧外,
    起卦的人由於多數與事件無關,
    故起卦者本身的時、位便會不易與事件關聯。

    這是極其容易被忽略的。

    亦是天機所在。

    一點看法。
     
    Herman 發表於: 2004/11/04 11:31pm
    I wrote this and posted it on a topics of this net.  It is talking about the factors that would affect the accuracy of 卦 and some incorrect method of interpretation of 卦象。  Well I paste part of it there for everybody's reference. It matches what Yell's saying.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    這篇文章,是提供給對六爻卦有基本認識的讀者參考。

    簡單來說,占卜可分開為四個階段。
    (1)心中有疑問,動念起卦
    (2)起卦、成卦
    (3)看象
    (4)斷卦、解卦

    許多朋友占了卦,自己去解或者是給別人去解,總會出現兩種情況:
    卦很準確或者是卦有偏差不準。

    其實影響卦的準確度的因素,主要問題在上述的第 (2) 、(3) 及 (4) 項程序。試想當你心有疑問,動念起卦,不論是用本筮、中筮、簡筮、手搖、米數、日期、心象觸機等方法起卦,都會有一個時段,如果在此時段,占卜者的心念,思潮起伏,萬象紛亂,自然會混亂了卦象,求出的卦就偏差了;既成卦,查出六爻六親六神,就進入看象階段,最容易出錯的是:
    (a)忽略了卦本身的意義、含義
    (b)看漏或看錯了本卦地支關係
    (c)看漏或看錯了對日辰的關係
    (d)看漏或看錯了對月令的關係
    (e)看漏或看錯了變爻與本卦的關係
    (f)看了一些簡單的現象,就武斷,例如卦現六沖、三刑,就鐵斷為失敗;卦現六合,必定成功等等

    看完卦象,就進入斷卦解卦的最後階段了。這階段是將上階段所出現的正確卦象爻象,組合聯想,去配合現在情況,作出判斷。最易出錯的情況是:
    (a)上階段的取象錯了
    (b)斷卦者的智識不足
    (c)占卜者和斷卦者智識及文化的差異
    (d)斷卦者心懷不軌,心不純淨

    對於第 (1) 項,除了是自己起卦,許多時是不能控制的,唯有第 (2) 及 (3) 項的問題,要靠個人對卦爻的認識,以增強斷卦的準確度。
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    YELL 發表於: 2004/11/04 10:53pm
    Athena,

    Accuracy depends on:
    1) interpretation method: there are at least 3 methods (易卜、梅花心易、卜筮) to interprete a 卦.  Application of different methods will render different implications, sometimes may even be opposite.  If you want to ask which is the best, I would say all of them are.  It is because 卦 acquired also varies with acquisition methods (tossing coins, the moment triggered, randomly pickup with computer, etc.).
    2) reality.  If you ask ‘Is there anyone dare to claim his interpretation history is 100% accurate (never ever wrong)?’ .  I dont think you would get one ‘yes’.  It is because ‘100% accurate’ is unrealistic (usually we say the 卦 is not accurate in this case).  If someone claims he has 90% accurate in record, I would say he is fairly accurate.

    I also believe the 卦 acquired varies with the interpretation method exercised by the person who gets it.  Hence, I will toss my own coins when I desire to predict critical issue.  Personally, my interpretation is in accord with Herman’s and Johnny’s because the implication is so obvious in view of 卜筮 (my interpretation drawn is different based on another 卦 in different topic).  As a consequence, I would jump to the conclusion that your 卦 is not accurate and is the cause of the wrong implication at this time.
     
    Herman 發表於: 2004/11/04 07:21pm
    [這篇文章最後由Herman在 2004/11/05 00:31am 第 5 次編輯]


    下面引用由Athena2004/11/04 05:57pm 發表的內容:
    Thank you all for responding to this thread.
    Congratulations to 小藍 !   Your interpretation is correct.  I'm impressed.
    地山謙, were you trying to have it both ways ?
    Herman and Johnnyng, wh ...



    We are not god.
    卦 is not 100% correct.  Even you could analyse the 卦象, it might not be 100% correct.
    If the 卦 did not match the reality, then it would give out incorrect 象.
    Never mind, I would continue to do research on the correct way on analysis of 卦象.
    The most important thing is not just give out an answer "yes" or "no". it is a matter of probability only. Whatever how you say about the 卦,we both have 50/50 chance to get the correct answer.
    What I concern is how to read out the whole  卦象. It is my aim.
    Very happy to have communication with overseas.
     
    Athena 發表於: 2004/11/04 05:57pm
    Thank you all for responding to this thread.

    Congratulations to 小藍 !   Your interpretation is correct.  I'm impressed.

    地山謙, were you trying to have it both ways ?

    Herman and Johnnyng, what went wrong ?

    David, I believe your so-called 100% accuracy mainly applies to historical,
    and perhaps current, events.  I think it is quite impossible to be perfectly
    accurate in forecasting what is going to happen in the future using I-Ching.
    I-Ching may be a book full of logic, wisdom and common sense, but
    most of its content is trying to have things both ways, i.e. it often gives
    positive and negative signs/words at the same time.  This leaves plenty
    of room for subjective interpretations.  Evidently, the postings under this
    and other threads regarding the re-election of George Bush serve to prove
    my point.  And so, for now, to me, as a forecasting tool, I-Ching the Book
    of Change remains not much different from a Book of Craps!


     
    小藍 發表於: 2004/11/04 04:29pm

    下面引用由Athena2004/11/02 10:33pm 發表的內容:
    Yes, Herman, I'm longing to see the election outcome!
    The 2004 race for the White House is again quite exciting since
    the two candidates are virtually running neck-to-neck with incumbent
    Bush ...



    To athena,
    動爻固然重要,但卦的大象也不能忽視。先分析卦象,再分析爻象。^^
     


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