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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:40pm

個人的一時不快, 又算什麼呢? 不如想想有什麼地方可以為他們做點事吧!

曼谷
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:42pm

巴西-里約熱內盧
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:43pm

肯雅
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:44pm

塞爾瓦多
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:46pm


新德里
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:48pm


印度新德里婦女就在這河洗衣
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:49pm


雅加達
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:51pm

雅加達的兒童

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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:52pm

菲律賓
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:54pm

奈羅比
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-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 00:55pm

委內瑞拉
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-- 作者: golden
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 01:16pm

看看落後地方, 回想一下自己身處香港, 其實是好幸福


-- 作者: mensch
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/09 09:10pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]nana[/u]在 [i]2005/06/09 12:40pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
... 不如想想有什麼地方可以為他們做點事吧!...[/quote]

it's good to have a kind heart for them
but how much can we really "do" for them, donate money consistantly , or to work as voluntary helpers serving them our whole lives through?

i think we can help more by "not doing" many things
such as, to be more environmental friendly
ppl in the 3rd world would suffer more from abnormal climate or natural disaster than ppl in developed countries

every year incredibly huge amount of natrual resources are taken from the 3rd world countries to satisfy ever-increasing greed of the ppl in modern big cities of countries with leadership...

i always believe it's not a problem of inadequacy, but injustice distribution :em14:

still, it's good trying to help


-- 作者: wingwing
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/15 07:48am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]mensch[/u]在 [i]2005/06/09 09:10pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
it's good to have a kind heart for them
but how much can we really "do" for them, donate money consistantly , or to work as voluntary helpers serving them our whole lives through?
i ...
[/quote]
同意mensch的觀點。長貧難顧。。。捐款捐物 治標不治本,幫助到的人九牛一毛。

從自己做起,日常生活中珍惜食物,紙張,能源(電、油、氣)等等,都可以減少環境污染,減少剝削貧困地區的人物資源。

支持貧困地區的助學工程也是有能力的朋友可以做的事情呢。有適當的教育才有自助出困境的資本呢。所謂給窮人家一籮魚,還不如教曉他們如何釣魚。


-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/15 02:03pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]wingwing[/u]在 [i]2005/06/15 07:48am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
從自己做起,日常生活中珍惜食物,紙張,能源(電、油、氣)等等,都可以減少環境污染,減少剝削貧困地區的人物資源。

[/quote]

有位同事, 因為懶洗杯碟, 家裡, 辦公室全用紙杯碟, 膠檯布..
衣服多至滿山滿谷.....真不知如何勸她 :em03:


-- 作者: mensch
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/15 09:34pm

[這篇文章最後由mensch在 2005/06/15 09:34pm 第 1 次編輯]

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]nana[/u]在 [i]2005/06/15 02:03pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
有位同事, 因為懶洗杯碟, 家裡, 辦公室全用紙杯碟, 膠檯布..
衣服多至滿山滿谷.....真不知如何勸她
[/quote]

i don't think anybody can persuade her to change...
leading such a life style is punishing oneself every minute every second :em07:
... but she can still go on without noticing any wrong...

btw, nana, is physical condition poor? :em13:


-- 作者: mensch
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/15 10:03pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]wingwing[/u]在 [i]2005/06/15 07:48am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
同意mensch的觀點。長貧難顧。。。捐款捐物 治標不治本,幫助到的人九牛一毛。
從自己做起,日常生活中珍惜食物,紙張,能源(電、油、氣)等等,都可以減少環境污染,減少剝削貧困地區的人物資源。
支持貧困地 ...
[/quote]

agree to wingwing too :em15:

but i have to say to "save" is comparatively passive...

commercial activities are the toughest enemy to the Earth
theoretically, consumers' need should be satisfied
however, the reality is just the opposite
commercialists influence or control consumers' behaviours by advertising and "education"
consumers spend money not for things they really need or even want, i.e.  some kind of luxury, i would say
those luxury can be fashion, packaging, "health products", etc.

even if everybody reuse plastic bags, use both sides of paper, recycle plastic, metal, and bottles, all these can't help much, as any manufacturing or recycling procedures involving industry would do great harm to the environment....
sewage
consumption of water, fossil fuel
producing more rubbish
even recycling consume lots of energy
:em19:

i believe the only solution is to lead a simple life
to use less and the best is not to use whenever possible

consumption of resources and pollution caused by industry must be mutiple folds of that by domestic use.
the commercialists would never cease to lure ppl to be insensible consumers...

i really hope ppl would become considerate and stop supporting the tyranny of commerce! :em04:

yet, i think the easiest way to help ppl in 3rd world and even the whole world is to be a vegetarian.
:em32:


-- 作者: nana
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/16 05:58am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]mensch[/u]在 [i]2005/06/15 09:34pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
i don't think anybody can persuade her to change...
leading such a life style is punishing oneself every minute every second  
... but she can still go on without noticing any wrong...
btw, n ...
[/quote]

you mean her physical condition?
great! much better than mine!
I think she has the misconception that one-use things are [color=red]cleaner[/color] than reusable things~~~~whenever she goes to the canteen to buy a coffee or whatever, she would say "to go"  so that the waiter would use a papar of foam cup to hold her coffee, despite she would sit down at the canteen to drink!]


-- 作者: rainbow
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/19 06:17am

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]nana[/u]在 [i]2005/06/16 05:58am[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
you mean her physical condition?
great! much better than mine!
I think she has the misconception that one-use things are cleaner than reusable things~~~~whenever she goes to the canteen to buy a coffee, despite she would sit down at the canteen to drink!] ...
[/quote]

"Single-Use Products" are not guaranteed to be cleaner than re-usable products.  The coffee, milk/cream and sugar being served in the canteen are probably not in single-serving packages -- it's not economically feasible for canteen/coffee shops to do that.  Only the paper cup is single-use.  However, cockroaches and rats could still be lurking around in the canteen at night and even during daytime.  The "safest" thing for your co-worker to do is to live life like Michael Jackson, inhaling special-formulated air and wearing gloves everywhere to avoid germs.  :em52:

Being exposed to germs is not a bad thing, it builds up immunity.


-- 作者: mensch
-- 發表時間: 2005/06/19 01:02pm

[quote][b]下面引用由[u]rainbow[/u]在 [i]2005/06/18 06:17pm[/i] 發表的內容:[/b]
Being exposed to germs is not a bad thing, it builds up immunity.
[/quote]

Exactly!

"Single-Use Products"  like foam cups may release toxic chemicals

paper cups and plates are not good either
they are coated with a layer of wax (it's a hazard to bring into cointact with hot food)
therefore, they are highly environmental unfriendly, because they can't be recycles

i really wonder how can your friend stay healthy...
i have the intuition that she's building up troubles...


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